A common question: Should you add degrees or credentials after your name on your resume and LinkedIn profile?
Because you are marketing yourself in the job market, be careful how you present yourself so your target employers see you as a viable candidate. Whether or not to put letters after your name depends on what kind of work you want.
- Go for it, if you want work in the field or profession implied by specific degrees and credentials.
- If you don’t want to pigeonhole yourself into one field, let your name stand on its own.
- By all means include the credentials and degrees elsewhere in your resume, for credentials lend credibility (both from the Latin word “credere” meaning “to believe”).
DEGREES
If you are looking for work in a specific field, you want to be defined by your degree or training. The most common letters after people’s names are PhD, MD, JD/LLD, MSW/DSW, RN, MPH (Master of Public Health), MFA (Master of Fine Art), MEd (Master of Education), PsyD (psychologist), MVDr (veterinary medicine), DO (osteopath), DC (chiropractor), EdD, PharmD (pharmacist), DDiv (Doctor of Divinity), MPA (Public Administration), and DDS/DMD (dentist).
As you can see by this list, most letters indicate the person’s choice of profession. Using letters after your name on your resume is a shorthand way to tell the job market that you looking for jobs in your profession or want to use the specific skills mastered through training in that profession. They tell people that you have those professional skills, and are dedicated to your field. For example,
- A self-labeled MSW most often wants a social work job, and probably won’t be considered for other positions.
- A PhD is going only for jobs that require a PhD – or will risk looking overqualified.
- An RN is probably seeking a nursing position or a position using the RN skills and tool kit.
Doctors and lawyers are slightly different animals, but the same principle applies. A lawyer will usually put JD, LLD or Esq. after their names, even if they are looking for work outside the law, because it is such a big part of their work persona and tool kit. Similarly, it is very rare for a medical doctor to omit the MD, DO or DC from after their names. Those letters convey a volume of information about a person’s training, vocation, attitude, and worldview. Of course, if you want to leave the field of medicine or law to start something else, it is wise to omit the defining credential letters to preclude people assuming you want to use those skills.
You may have noticed that the degree “Master of Business Administration” is missing from the list above. It’s very unusual to see the letters MBA after someone’s name. I’m not quite sure why, except to say that the training for MBAs is far more diverse and far-ranging than any other professional training. Seeing “MBA” doesn’t really tell anyone that you know very much about any one aspect of business. It makes more sense when you can say “MBA in Leadership” (as I have), “MBA in Accounting,” “MBA in International Trade” or another specialty.
How do you let employers know you have an MBA? Put it in the education section of your resume and LinkedIn profile, and definitely mention it in your cover letter. (Remember to always include a cover letter.) The letters MBA will be found by search engines. Putting that in your education section gives people a reason to scroll down, which makes them glance at your experience, too.
CERTIFICATIONS
Certifications provide another shortcut for indicating the kind of jobs you want. Some credentials are important enough that you could easily put them after your name, under the assumption that you want to use that knowledge and skill in your next position. Examples are CPA (Certified Public Accountant), CFP (Certified Financial Planner), CFRE (Certified Fundraising Professional), and MSCE (Microsoft Certified Professional).
Take CPA for example. If you say you are a CPA, I assume you want an accounting or financial management job that requires that kind of training – or I’ll want to ask you to do those things for me. If you don’t want to do CPA work, don’t put the initials after your name.
People have asked me if they should put PMP after their name after earning the Project Management Professional credential. Absolutely yes, if what you want is a project management job. If you want more options, then include the PMP in your resume and on LinkedIn, but don’t put it after your name. You will be pigeon-holed otherwise as solely a Project Manager.
There are exceptions to this, of course. If you want to do project management exclusively, then definitely list PMP. If you have a special license, you can put that after your name – if you are looking for work in that field. For one thing, people outside the field won’t understand the initials. Here are a couple of examples:
- Registered Dietitians looking for work in that field would put “RD” after their name. Does anyone outside of food service know what “RD” means, though?
- PA can mean Physician Assistant or Production Assistant or Personal Assistant. It depends on the context to convey what you mean.
What do you do with your certification if you don’t put the letters after your name? Two options:
- LinkedIn now has a “Certifications” section for your profile. You also can add special certifications to the “Specialties” section on your LinkedIn profile summary.
- Have a “CERTIFICATIONS” section on your resume. This makes clear that your degree, licensure or certification is one of your qualifications, rather than the defining one.
- I’ve also seen people put degrees on their business cards when networking. This makes a certain sense because you only have this small piece of paper on which to make critical points. It’s the only place I’ve seen “NAME NAME, MBA” where it’s looked normal and not cringe-inducing.
Do you have any other ideas about how to draw attention to your credentials?
I’m so glad I saw your post!! I graduated with a Masters of Science in Organizational Leadership (MSOL) and recently acquired my Post-Master’s Certificate in Healthcare Administration. If I am looking for a healthcare administration-type job… would I list my credentials as:
FIRSTNAME LASTNAME, MSOL, PGC-HCA
?? Or…??? Thank you!
Hi Michele! You have some great credentials! I would list them in the order you have. After doing a little research, I think I’d list your Post-Master’s Certificate in Healthcare Administration as PMCHA – you don’t need the second C imo. If the acronym PGC-HCA is the one your program uses, then by all means use the one you know. Good luck in your search. Julie
As both a hiring manager and a linkedin group moderator I do not recommend this. There is a spot for your credentials and certifications on your linkedin profile. That spot is not your name. Those that have adopted this pattern are routinely banned from forums I manage for poor quality contributions, including other naked examples of marketing themselves.
These resumes go to the bottom of any stack I receive.
Thanks for your feedback, James. Readers should be aware that there are hiring managers like James who believe sharing one’s credentials is unacceptable. I am of the opinion that if you do not want to share your credentials, then you would be comfortable working with/for someone like James. If you do want to share your credentials, then working with/for someone with James’s opinion would not be a “right fit.” There’s room for everyone in the world of work.
Hello, I have a B.A. in Education within physical educaiton and a masters in school leadership (MASL) How and what should I list after my name? I was thinking (First name) (Last name), MASL and thats it?
That’s perfect, Jeremy!
Hi!
This is a very useful site — so thank you! I am an attorney who also has a Master’s in Education. I am looking for a career more in education management (i.e., administrative position) rather than the law. Do I write FirstName LastName, Esq., M.Ed.? Or what would you recommend otherwise? I currently just have FirstName LastName, Esq. but I don’t want potential employers to miss the fact I have a Master’s degree in Education (rec’d before the JD if that’s relevant). Thank you!!!
Hi Ruth, I’m so glad you find the site useful. Regarding your question, I like the FirstName LastName, Esq., M.Ed. construction because you are looking to do education management. The M.Ed. is essential shorthand for potential employers to know that you are qualified for such positions. Alternatively, you could use this construction: FirstName LastName, MEd, JD (with degrees listed in chronological order of receipt/earning). Best of luck in your search! Julia
what about ME? what does that stand for
It could be Master of Engineering, Medical Examiner, Master of Education, or Mechanical Engineer.
I found this to be very educative. Thanks for that. Can someone who has a BSN(bachelors in nursing) without a nursing license & an MPH degree put BSN next to their name?
Just to clarify….i meant they have a BSN & MPH but no nursing license since they didn’t want to practice nursing. Thanks for your response
Hi Grace, I’m glad you found it educational! If the BSN degree is relevant to the person’s work and/or career aspirations, s/he can put that credential next to their name. It’s OK to list the Bachelor level degree because it’s a professional degree; someone can practice nursing with that degree. It would be listed first, before MPH, as it was the earlier degree. Good luck, Julie
Interesting,I thought RD means “Research and Development”. Can Health care administrators use MHA or MSHCA after their names?
Hi Limos,
thanks for reminding us that RD has many different meanings! And yes, if a health care administrator has earned a Masters of Healthcare Administration or Masters of Science in Health Care Administration, they definitely can use those initials after their names. If you’ve earned it, use it!
Best, Julie
Hi, I am presenting five break out sessions using a holistic health modality I am trained in at a Healthy Campus Healthy Community conference in four weeks. I am pursuing my Masters in Holistic Healing at the university in which I am presenting. I have a BA in English and then went on to get certification at the masters level in special ed and for a teacher of English (however they are designated). I have been in the holistic healing field for about 12 years and have multiple certifications as I have been trained by many well respected people in the field. These certifications, such as drumming facilitator, Reiki Master, Shamanic Practitioner, Mindfulness teacher,etc.are important to me and I feel the experiences and teachings I have had are invaluable. I was asked to include my credentials for this event and have no idea what to include as I haven’t been a part of academia for many years and every other presenter is a doctor or nurse or has a doctorate. I will be in esteemed company and do not know how to present myself on the program. Any guidance will be helpful. Thank you so much. I have learned much through this blog.
Blessings and joy to you,
Deborah
Hi Deborah, thanks so much for your kind comments – I am glad my blog has helped you! I apologize for the late reply to this question. I’m fascinated by it because you have such a great number of certifications that are not necessarily immediately recognized. I hope you used your Reiki Master (RM) qualification because that is likely to be more recognized. You could also use SP for Shamanic Practitioner. I also wonder if you can have a short bio that says “Deborah also is certified as a Drumming Facilitator, Mindfulness Teacher, and more.” Your studies and credentials are probably more relevant in this conference than you think. Good luck! Julie
What about listing BBA for an undergraduate degree?
Hi Cheryl, it is not common to list your undergraduate degree. If you are applying for a job that requires a BA, most recruiters and HR managers will assume you have one, and will confirm that by looking at your Education section. I would not put my undergrad degree after my name, as it would suggest some lack of confidence and a need to buttress myself with a credential. In other words, it would damage my credibility in a way that listing an advanced degree does not. Hope that helps. Best, Julie
I just receive my LCSW. I have notice that some people place the MSW credentials before the LCSW credentials. Could someone please give me the correct format of how these initials should be used in a signature block as a professional
Hi Aaron,
From my research, MSW is a degree and LCSW is a credential. To get your LCSW you need to have the MSW and the required supervised hours in your state, plus pass the exam. Usually, people will use the LCSW as the sole letters after their name. When people list both, they are correct to put MSW first because they got it earlier in time. The most recent degree or credential is the last listed.
Hope that helps!
Julie
Hello, I was wondering how to best present my skills on a business card. I work in Engineering, I have bs in mechanical engineering aquired in 1999, a professional engineering license in 2009, and a recently aquired ms in management of techology. Im guessing I could put my name as: (first name ) (last name) PE MS? Is there a better way? By the way I plan on continuing work in the field of engineering. Your insight is much appreciated!
Hi Wes,
apologies for the very late reply – I was ill for much of the last month and not spending time on my website.
Re how to present your credentials on a business card, the preference is to list an academic credential first, and then the professional license. In your case, it would be Wes (Last Name), MS, PE.
Good luck!
Best, Julie
I completed a MSW years ago and just completed a MPA. In my field a MSW is not required, but highly respected and preferred. An MPA is an unusual skill set for my field that is more and more sought after- for example, for developing and implementing policies and programs in social services. Honestly, my MPA program was much more rigorous and helped me build much more skill than my MSW did. I was leaning toward MPA, MSW for my email tag line and business cards, but since MSW was earned first, should I change the order? I was not planning to put any letters after my name on LinkedIn or my CV, should I?
I can also be easily convinced to leave off the letters all together- I worked hard, but don’t want to be pretentious, and I believe my work can stand on its own. Any advice is much appreciated.
Hi Jessica,
congratulations on earning 2 great degrees! Having 2 degrees indicates that you are a hard worker and someone who believes in continually improving your skills.
Usually the earliest degree is listed first with the newest listed last. So it would be MSW, MPA. I believe in only listing those degrees that will help you in your job search and in your field. Remember degrees convey credibility. So I’d list the MSW if it is helpful in establishing your credibility in your field.
As an aside, the knowledge you got as a social work student is so ingrained in you today that you may be underestimating how challenging it was when you were in school. I find that I underestimate things that come easily to me – they don’t come easily to other people, and just because I don’t see my knowledge as any big deal, it actually is a big deal in the wider world.
I know people who purposely leave their credentials off of their LinkedIn page and CV/resume, usually because they believe they will be mocked by others in their field. I defer to their judgment – because they know their field better than I do – while reminding them that letters after your name are a shorthand way of communicating a number of messages: subject matter expertise, discipline and stick-to-it-iveness (perseverance), love of learning, and ability to complete difficult projects. So I always advocate putting it on the resume and LinkedIn. Some studies show that people review a resume/CV in an average of 6 seconds. Why not convey key information very quickly, at the top of the page? And applicant tracking systems are looking for keywords, such as degrees. The letters are often the key words.
So, while it’s up to you, I would recommend including both the MSW and MPA on my resume/CV and LinkedIn page.
Best, Julie
Hi,
thanks for the article, I was wondering though, for someone like me who have earned my degrees (M.D. and R.Ph.–medical and registered pharmacist) in one country, but I have migrated since then and earned another degree here (PgDip–Postgraduate diploma in health science).
Am I still allowed to use or should I still list my MD and RPh? I have worked hard for these degrees. I am currently working within my field in healthcare, but have not converted my medical degree or pharmaceutical license to be valid in the country where I am currently residing. My medical and pharmaceutical background still do come into play in my current role in that I have knowledge and understanding of items and situations in the industry.
If I am able to list all of my degrees, in what order are they to be listed?
Thank you.
Hi VH,
I have some – not extensive – experience with people who have gotten degrees from other countries, so take what I say with that in mind.
Obviously, you are going to list the education and degrees on your resume and LinkedIn profile. And you can explain in a cover letter that you earned those degrees, which give you enormous insight into the healthcare field.
I wonder if you got your PgDip based on your MD and RPh degrees. If so, then it would make a certain sense for you to list those degrees. However…
The hesitation I have is that potential employers might think you a) overqualified for a job because of those degrees or b) qualified to practice medicine or pharmacy in your current country. If you are not eligible to practice those in your current country, I (as an employer) might think you are misleading me with those credentials.
While you did work hard to get those degrees and they are relevant, there are pretty stringent ethics guidance regarding who can practice medicine in the US, and it’s possibly also the case in the country you currently live in. So if it were me, I would steer clear of listing MD. It may be different regarding the Pharmacy degree because you have the knowledge and aren’t applying for pharmacy jobs (I presume). If you list the Pharmacy degree without the R (for registered, right?). My French clients who have their Pharmacy degree do list that credential.
On the order to list them, usually the oldest credential goes first with the newest last. NAME, MPharm (or DPharm), PgDip-HS
I think the main point has been missed entirely (by many who feel the need to write on it). If someone wants to put their credentials behind their name LET THEM! They worked damned hard and IT is why the LETTERS were created…to put behind ones name. If you prefer not, then don’t. The reason it is listed is to highlight to the reader that you are a specialist, expert or knowledgable in a certain area. Just your name is NOT enough. And it separates the professional/take serious document from a casual write up of oneself. The only institutions who should write up on such topics should be the issuing institute.
Hi Aisha,
As you say, the point of credentials is to establish one’s expertise and to provide a sort of shorthand for people to know what you are knowledgeable about and skilled in doing. I do work with people who don’t list their credentials for various reasons. It is up to the person with the credential to use it or not. Thanks for your comment.
Best, Julie
Wow I must be living under a rock! To hear some of you get so disgruntled and offended over something you felt was misrepresented, oh boy. I think when we get so defensive, so quickly it’s because we assume someone is killing our character or damaging our reputation. Please just keep in mind that if we react back with harsh accusations we’re doing the same exact thing we were initially offended by. Just an idea, maybe ask someone before we assume their ignorance, exactly what they were trying to say. Obviously I am not just talking about this thread but our knee jerk reaction to walk in offense so easily. Ten seconds, breath then ask before assuming…will change conversations. Frustration ends, where communication begins.
Hi Sherry,
Thanks for your comment – lots of good ideas in there. The breathing is very important. When I feel defensive or angry, it’s a signal that I’m taking offense to something that the other person may not have intended as offensive. So I breathe, give myself a chance to make a decision about how I want to respond. To be effective at work (and life), I’ve found it’s important to respond, rather than react. My anger is reaction. My response is based on various considerations – maybe I need to ask a question and get clarity about what the person meant. If I react with anger, what impact will that have on my relationship with the person? What impact will it have on our work together?
I also remember that “how I do anything is how I do everything.” So if I react to strangers on a site with anger, that’s probably how I react to my colleagues and loved ones. If I value positive, constructive relationships with my colleagues and loved ones, I’ll learn how to respond. And I can practice that behavior online, too.
Thanks again for the valuable reminder about how communication can happen.
Best, Julie
Hi Jerickson, what do you think about using LSSBB (Lean Six Sigma – Black Belt) after your name?
Hi curiousgeorge, what a great question! The specifics of LSSBB aside for a moment, I recommend that people use acronyms that are generally understood in their field, and if they are not well-known, to include the information in the Education or Certifications/Licenses section of your resume. Another option is to put the credential in your resume’s profile, so it shows up early in the reviewer’s vision. My assumption would be that people in your field would know what LSSBB stands for, so go ahead and use it. I’ve seen L6S for Lean Six Sigma, CSSBB for Certified Six Sigma Black Belt, and LSSBB for Lean Six Sigma Black Belt, as well as L6SBB. It’s a great qualification to have so definitely include it. I’d just write it out somewhere else in your resume as Lean Six Sigma Black Belt (with no hyphen). Good luck! J.
Hi Julie,
I recently read Master’s Degrees are the bare minimum for executive positions; and as such, should never be listed with your name. However, Post Master’s Advance Certifications, and licenses etc. are appropriate credentials to list.
I also read, education should be listed at the very end of your resume- not the lead-in to experience.
What’s your thoughts?
Kyra
Hi Kyra,
I’m curious as to where you read that Master’s degrees shouldn’t be listed after your name. I haven’t ever heard of that. In fact, what I’ve read is that because Master’s degrees are often sought, it’s smart to list an MBA or other Master’s degree after your name as the way to quickly communicate that you have that credential. That’s my opinion, too.
Re listing education on your resume, I prefer to list it at the end of the resume with 3 exceptions:
1) recent graduates should put Education before Experience, and list GPA if it is over 3.5 (overall or in your major) – peformance in school is a fairly good indicator of how you’ll perform at work.
2) career changers who’ve gone back to school for another degree or certification – it’s important to show your commitment to the new field right up front in your resume
3) academics who always put education up front – education is the baseline for someone to be employed at an institution of higher learning so it has to be first. CV formats (curriculum vitae) require it up front, as far as I have seen with all my academic clients.
Hope that answers your questions!
Best Julie
Please tell me
If I have Diploma for Magistrate of Economy
and diploma MBA for Marketing
How to write my name together with titles
Dear Goran,
My suggestion is that you list MBA only after your name. Although I am not able to find “Magistrate of Economy,” I see that most Diplomas in the UK educational system are precursors to Masters degrees. So the MBA is the most relevant credential. Does that help?
Best, Julie
I work in the Healthcare industry and indicating your credentials in the form of initials (i.e. RN, BSN, RD, etc.) is actually encouraged.It means you are qualified to perform your job because you have the training required set forth by governing body/ies. Healthcare is a highly regulated industry and we comply with laws that’s maybe stricter than most jobs out there. Not everyone can be hired as a nurse, a dietitian, imaging tech, medical coder without meeting training requirements/education and passing a licensure or certification exam. Healthcare professionals are also required to report and meet continuing education requirements by the organization who issued their license/credential. That means we are required to register for classes/seminars to ensure our knowledge is up to date and giving our best to those who needs our help.
Hi Abbey,
what a great perspective you bring to this. The importance of credentials in healthcare cannot be overstated, because we all want healthcare professionals to know what they’re doing and have up-to-date training. Thanks for writing!
Best, Julie
QUESTION for the author. I’m finishing my MA in Clinical Mental Health in 2 months. However, in order to get licensed to practice without being under supervision I have to obtain my LMFT and or LPC-MHSP which takes an additional 18 months-2 years. Would it be okay to put something like Tommy (Last name), MA, LMFT eligible post-grad. Or LPC (Eligible Post-Grad)? I’m kinda paranoid about this because I don’t want to risk getting sued or find trouble with the licensing board. What so you think? Thank you for this article.
Hi Tommy, I would only say you have your MA – Tommy Lastname, MA-CMH. It’s irrelevant that you’re eligible to get the license, because it’s merely a statement of intent. Credentials make you believable because you took the action needed to get that credential – and we are assessed based on our actions, not our intent. Having the MA says a lot about your perseverance and dedication to your field, so that’s enough for now. Good luck! Julie
Hello!
I had a quick question. I’ve read in other sites that you should only list terminal degrees after your name. Is this correct?
I have my CPA license and Master of Accounting. Would it be acceptable for my resume to list my name as
Jane Doe, MAcc, CPA
Jane Doe, CPA, MAcc
or just:
Jane Doe, CPA
?
Thank you for your help!
Hi MR, I would recommend listing either just the CPA, as that encompasses a huge amount of expertise and credibility, or listing it as “Jane Doe, MAcc, CPA” if you want people to know you have a Master’s, not just a Bachelor’s. The Master’s is a terminal degree, and the CPA is a field-specific qualification. Either way would be fine. Good luck! Best, Julie
Thank you for a terrific article! Please advise whether to list my credentials as an MPS or MPM or some other way: I have recently earned a Master of Professional Studies in Political Management. It seems to me that I may need to honor the technical name for the degree by using MPS (Master of Professional Studies), but that MPM (Master of Political Management) describes the degree better. On another note, your article speaks excellently to when it is most appropriate to add the suffix–thank you again!
Hi Dave,
I’m so glad the article is helpful. I would use MPM because it does convey the content. Another thing you could do is MPS-PM as the credential, so it contains both the formal degree and the content.
Good luck!
Julie
Hello and may I begin by expressing my deepest thanks for taking the time to help all of us figure out the sometimes confusing task of presenting one’s self in a professional manner. However, I do find it inappropriate when someone (such as myself, in which I have earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology with specializations in Neuroscience and Psychopharmacology) to write my name as Christopher Rindsig, B.S. in any situation.
But my question is this… I am composing my professional e-mail signature and want to include my degree in it…
Would any of the following be an acceptable format?
1)
Christopher D. Rindsig
Bachelor of Science in Psychology with specializations in Neuroscience and Psychopharmacology?
2)
Christopher D. Rindsig
Bachelor of Science in Psychology
or simply 3)
Christopher D. Rindsig, B.S.
or 4)
Christopher D. Rindsig, B.S.
Psychology with specializations in Neuroscience and Psychopharmacology.
I’m applying for a medical research position prior to going back to obtain my Doctorate in Neuroscience and Psychopharmacology…. Let me know.
Thank you so much!
Hi Christopher,
what a great degree you have and plan for going forward. Re your email signature, I would say
Christopher D. Rindsig
BS in Psychology, specializations in Neuroscience & Psychopharmacology
It’s very similar to your signatures, just placing all the information below your name and using the abbreviation for your bachelor’s degree. And it’s a little shorter.
Good luck to you!
Best, Julie
Hi,
I have two masters degrees in different fields: the first is a MA in General Psychology and the second is a MS in Education (Not a M.Ed). I am currently working towards an Ed.S. How should I list these credentials for the current two masters and then once I receive the Ed.S? Thanks!
Hi Angela,
interesting question… You could list the two MAs like this: MAPsy and MSEd. The first is not commonly used while the second is an accepted abbreviation. I suggest the MAPsy abbreviation because it is a way to let people know you focused on Psychology, and Doctors of Psychology use PsyD, so Psy is accepted as an abbreviation for “psychology.” Once you get the Ed.S., I would list M.A.Psy., Ed.S. because the Ed.S. presupposes the Master of Science in Education. I’d keep in the M.A.Psy. because that is a different field, and to me would make you even more attractive to an employer.
Good luck!
Julie
Even if you only have a Bachelors degree I think that if you want to put it at the end of your name DO IT!!! (Example: John Doe, BA Psychology) That degree took 4 years of your life to complete! It shows that you are more educated than the person who doesn’t have a Bachelors degree in psychology. And yes, your knowledge would be superior because you have a degree! To say its unimportant is very rude!
Hi Joshua,
thanks for your comment. I’m curious as to why you think I say a BA is unimportant. I believe a BA is quite important! Getting one demonstrates that you have the commitment, discipline and follow-through to achieve a challenging goal. What I think you may have misunderstood is that it’s not common to list a BA after your name, at least not in the United States, so doing so would make you stand out in not such a great way (perceived perhaps as naive or not well-versed in the business world). If someone has a BA as well as an advanced degree, it’s not necessary to list the BA along with the advanced degree because in the US and many other parts of the world, you need to have a BA in order to even qualify for entrance into an advanced degree program. If you have a Masters or PhD, most readers will presume you also have a BA, BSc, BFA or other Bachelor’s level degree. I hope that clarifies my take on BAs.
I have an AAS, BS and MBA and am also a CMA (certified Medical Assistant. How should I arrange my credentials and which ones do I include?
Jennifer
Hi Jennifer, great question! I would list my name followed by MBA, CMA. The MBA already presumes that you have a BS, while the BS supersedes the AAS. The CMA is an important certification and usually certifications come after degrees. Good luck! Julie
Great article!
What is your opinion on MSIT-SE (Masters of Science in Information Technology-Software Engineering), to list on my resume, email signature, business card, and LinkedIn profile.
This can be confused with MSIT-SE (Masters of Science in Information Technology-Systems Engineering) that are offered by the same University.
Note that Software Engineering and Systems Engineering are both specializations.
Respectfully,
~Geo
Hi Geo,
thanks for this interesting question. So many acronyms today stand for a number of subjects and specialties. If it were me, I’d go with MSIT-SE and explain the credential in the Education section of my resume as well as in any cover letter and both the headline and summary of my LinkedIn profile. Two reasons for this:
1) The credential itself already is long and adding any clarifying information (e.g. MSIT-SystEng or MSIT-SoftEng) may be overkill. Nonetheless, if you do want to clarify, then the previous are my suggested wordings.
2) It’s often good to give readers a reason to keep reading – which they will have to do to see whether you are an Systems or Software Engineer. I would think your job application would provide context – you would be applying for jobs that require or desire Software Engineering degrees – and you will definitely provide the context in your cover letter.
I hope this helps!
Best, Julie
Hi Jerickson!
What an awesome posting! Thank-you for such an amazing article! It was very interesting reading all the questions and then your answers that followed. Your full of great knowledge! I am having a hard time finding the answer to my question so I am going to ask you and see what your thoughts are. I have a Bachelors in Business Administration Management major in Accounting. Could I potentially put any initials after my name? I am looking into moving from Maine to New York and of course in NY it’s the Financial capital of the world and credentials after your name look good. I also have 20 years experience in the non-profit world. I don’t know if this is symbolic either? I recently lost my job and like I said I am trying to boost my resume for jobs I may be looking for in a different state. I need your advise please……
Hi Donnelle,
Thanks so much for your question. It’s a great one. It’s not usual practice to put a BBA after your name. And my financial services clients usually balk at putting any credentials after their names. For example, one wouldn’t put MBA but did put CFA, while another wouldn’t list MBA but would put CPA. From those and other examples, I believe that “tooting your own horn” via educational credentials is frowned upon in financial services circles. If you have or can get a certification, however, that would be acceptable. So don’t worry about listing a credential.
Focus instead on building a resume that stresses the impact you’ve had on the companies and organizations for which you’ve worked. List accomplishments, not simply activities. After each description of what you did, ask “so what? What happened because I did that?” Did something increase, improve, begin, get resolved? Use numbers to give people a sense of the scope of your activity and impact. That’s what’s going to impress people.
Then network your way into conversations with people in financial services to see if you have what it takes to get a job in NY, and if not, what you’d need to do to increase your chances. There are plenty of non-profits in NY, too, so don’t forget to network your way into conversations with those people. Working for a non-profit may make for an easier transition to a new location, because you already have experience in that sector. It can be difficult to change 2 things at once – your location and your career focus.
Hope this helps, and good luck! Best, Julie
I would like to subscribe for the posts on this blog.
Is it possible JErickson?
And one more thing, are these tips still relevant in 2015?
Hi, thanks for your interest in my blog. I thought you could subscribe but I see my RSS feed is broken. Gotta fix it! Also, the tips are still relevant in 2015. There may be some updates necessary but I began writing at about the time of the crash of 2008, when the employment field completely changed in favor of employers. That has not changed, even though the economy has improved. Most employers are taking longer to hire, looking for “culture fit,” and requiring much more of a match to the job specifics than ever before. So targeting your search based on your strengths is still the best way to find a job you’ll like. Good luck! Julie
Hi Julie,
I did a joint honours degree in Environmemtal Science and Biology. I am finding it difficult to find if I list both of these (for my business card) and if so, do I list both with honours?
Ie. First name last name, HBESc, HBSc
Is there a specific way to do this? Should I leave out the second one?
Thank you!!
Hi Katie, in the UK and many British Commonwealth countries, it is typical to write your name and HBESc (Hons) after your name. I’d pick one of them and go with that, and I’d pick the one most relevant to your work – which looks like the BESc degree (based on reading your email address) You can write HBSc after your name, but in the US it won’t really be understood. People don’t usually list Bachelors degrees after their names in the US. You can do so, of course, and you’ll be educating folks here. Good luck, Julie
so i’m a licensed insurance agent. what do i put? lol the thought just came to my head.
Hi Kena, I’ve not seen listing of a license after someone’s name, though I have seen people list their license on a business card. It would have your name, and underneath would say “Licensed Insurance Agent” or “Insurance Agent” with your License # elsewhere on the card. I wonder what other people’s experience has been. Best, Julie
another thought, Kena – if you are a member of any major insurance associations or have any special certifications, you can list those after your name.
Hello there! This blog post couldn’t be written much better!
Looking through this post reminds me of my previous
roommate! He constantly kept talking about this.
I’ll forward this information to him. Fairly certainn he’ll have a great
read. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Esmeralda,
thanks so much! It sounds like you have a smart friend! I’d love to hear more of his ideas, and yours.
Best, Julie
Hi!
Please help me decide what to do. I have a M.Ed. in Teaching and Curriculum and a M.Ed. in English as a Second Language. I need to do an educational resume and have contact cards to give to students. Do I just put Name, M.Ed. and explain the dual degree later, or list it like Name, M.Ed., M.Ed. I haven’t seen MEdTC or MEdESL before. Any ideas suggestions?
Hi Mia,
great question! My suggestion is to put Name, MEd-TC, MEd-ESL or Name, MEd-TC & ESL. Either one will convey that you have specialization in two areas. The first one more clearly conveys two degrees, so I’d prefer that one.
Good luck!
Julie
Hi Julie,
Thank you for writing this article!
It’s really useful as I didn’t find many references online.
I find people don’t really put their degree/title behind their names in most western countries
(Please correct me if i’m wrong).
I have bachelor degree in economy and I got certification in volunteer management (CVM) and certificate in international development (CID). Previously I never put any title behind my name but I have always been asked because in the country where I plan to work, the people really take degree and certification seriously.
After reading your article and all the comments here, is it common to put:
My name, BEc, CVM, CID?
Thank you for your input.
Lisa
Hi Lisa,
this is a very interesting question. I’m somewhat familiar with Thailand, China and Indonesia, all of which place emphasis on credentials (as well as wanting a photograph of you on your resume/CV). Using the principals here, I’d list “name, BA, CVM, CID” unless your bachelor’s degree is a Bachelor of Science in which case it would be be “BS, CVM, CID.” The abbreviation BEc is usually known as Business English Certificate (BEC) so it’s best to avoid any confusion. If it’s important that the readers know you studied economics, you can say “BA (Econ), CVM, CID.” Readers probably won’t know what CVM or CID means, which is good because then they have to ask you – and you can begin building a relationship which should be helpful in your job search.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Julie
I have been searching everywhere for a clue as to how to write the credentials for Master of Design (Graphic Communication). I don’t think I can put MD so how is it done? Can you tell me please.
Hi Lisa,
you are so right not to put MD. The preferred way is to say MDes after your name. You also could put M.Des. or M.Design.
Good luck!
Best, Julie
Hi! Can you tell me how to represent a specialist diploma in Educational Leadership? It is a post Master’s level diploma and was obtained after a Masters Degree in Special Education.
Thank You!
Hi Paddy,
Thanks for your question. There are several ways to list your specialist diploma: PgDEdL, PGDEdL, PgDipEdL, PGDipEdL, and PG Dip EdL. Personally, I like the first or second one.
Good luck!
Julie
Can you tell me what order degrees should be placed after a name?
For example, I am a Regisered Nurse with a Bacehlor’s degree in Nursing and I also have an Masters in Business Administration in Health Care Management.
I attained these degrees in this order, BSN, RN, MBA-HCM which is the way I created my signature line on official communications.
Is this correct?
Thank you,
Roberta
Hi Roberta,
you certainly can list the degrees in the way you show. However, I am all for brevity when possible. I presume that you have a Bachelors when you get an MBA, and also that you went to school for nursing when you have an RN. So I’d list RN, MBA. If you feel it helps to say MBA-HCM, that’s fine, too.
I’m impressed by your achievements!
Best, Julie
Just curious?
If someone has a PhD. in one field and a BA in another field.
Should you list both to show the variety of different training, or just list the PhD.?
Hi Anwar, great question! It depends on whether the BA is relevant to your chosen field. If it is, I’d probably list both with the BA first. While no one will know by the initials the subject of each degree, you will trigger their curiosity and hopefully they will either ask you about the degrees, or go into your resume or LinkedIn profile to find out what is what. If the BA isn’t relevant and the PhD is, I’d list only the PhD. Hope that helps. Julie
I’m just about to finish my PhD, defending this month. I have a JD and an LCSW.Would you recommend
My Name, PhD, JD, LCSW -or-
My Name, JD, PhD, LCSW I obtained the JD 30 years ago. Does that matter?
Hi JM, the usual order of listing credentials is in the order you received them. So I’d say JD, LCSW, PhD. If you wanted to do JD, PhD, LCSW – that makes a certain sense because the JD and PhD are terminal degrees while the LCSW is a licensing credential based on you also having an MSW. The length of time since you got the JD doesn’t matter at all – you earned it! Best, Julie
Hello Julie, I am almost in the same boat as below. I have a PhD in Sociology but my primary work is Counseling and I adjunct in counseling as well. I have a MA in Counseling. I am certified (CRC)for counseling, a licensed professional counselor (LPC) and certified as in Nonprofit Administration from a local university. I am not sure the certification is national or even regional but it is helpful when I am working with nonprofit organizations. My concern is that by not listing my MA in Counseling I may be misleading others to believe my PhD is in Counseling. So should I write (Name, PhD MA CRC LPC NPA) or should I write (Name, PhD CRC LPC NPA). I have been told by some to drop the MA. I use the NPA as needed. Please reply. Thank you, SYM
Nov 26, 2013
Reply Hi Judy,
this is a very interesting conundrum! Here’s what I would do in your shoes: list the degrees and certifications I think are most helpful in establishing my credibility in my chosen profession. Since credentials are for establishing credibility, so what’s most important for you to be credible as a psychotherapist and mediator?
My take: Being a JD lends credibility to your mediation practice. Being an LCSW brings credibility to your therapy practice. And the APM is the credential for mediation. Listing them in order of when earned, I’d say JD, LCSW, APM. Once you get more than 3, it looks a little like gobbledy-gook, so I like to keep it as short and sweet as possible.
So why LCSW instead of MSW? Because the LCSW encompasses it. My LCSW clients in NY and NJ tell me that the MSW is presumed if you are an LCSW, that you can be an MSW without being an LCSW but you have to be an MSW to be an LCSW. This site confirms that LCSWs must have an MSW to be eligible for the LCSW: http://www.aswb.org/licensees/about-licensing-and-regulation/.
I hope this is helpful. It sounds like you provide a wonderful set of services, so I wish you continued luck in building your practice.
Best, Julie
Hi SYM,
You are definitely well prepared to do a lot of things. Here’s how I’d think it through: the PhD is impressive no matter what. It sends the signal that you did an incredible amount of work, were able to complete a monumental task, and have the focus and determination needed to tackle big challenges. I wouldn’t worry very much about whether people thought my PhD was in counseling, because I’d be putting LPC immediately after it. The LPC communicates that you are licensed by the state – meaning you met all the educational and practice requirements – and can be reimbursed by insurance programs. Per my research, most LPCs have gotten a Masters in Counseling, so I don’t think the MA is needed – it seems a little redundant. The CRC is a little different – am I right in thinking that you are a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor? If so, it’s a valuable and necessary credential. I think of it as more specialized so I’d put it after the PhD and LPC. The NPA is a fairly uncommon credential, and I would imagine that listing it would cause people to ask what it is, so there’s an opportunity for you to market your non-profit administration abilities.
I always think about two things: what you really want to be doing, and how you will list your credentials on your LinkedIn profile, so here’s my suggestion: name, PhD, LPC, CRC, NPA. It’s a lot, and you may consider taking out the NPA – unless you want to work with non-profits almost exclusively. If you’re doing counseling, I don’t think the NPA is needed. It doesn’t really matter to most non-profit folks that you know how to run non-profit operations, if you’re a counselor. Now, if you want to be on the management team of a non-profit that offers counseling, the NPA is essential. Without knowing more about your situation, that’s my 2 cents. Hope it’s helpful.
Best, Julie
I received a Marketing Certificate and wonder what I would use to show this? As well as a Travel Councelling Certificate (all from a recognized institute)
Melanie
Hi Melanie,
it sounds like you are committed to advancing your career. As certificates do become more popular and recognized as valuable, it’s good to list the most relevant. I suggest putting CM after your name. If you have a certificate in digital marketing, you would put CDM. The Travel Counselling Certificate is applicable if you are looking in the travel business, so I suppose you could add TCC after CM, separated by a comma. Whether people will recognize those acronyms depends on whether they are in the industry. At very least, they will ask you what it means. You must put the educational institution and certificate source in the Education section of your resume.
FYI, if you want to continue your professional development, you can pursue a CTC (Certified Travel Counsellor), the national industry designation, and a CME (Certified Marketing Executive), also a recognized credential.
Good luck! Julie
Hi, I work in the field of physical security. I have a Masters of Science in: Safety, Security, & Emergency Management with a concentration in Homeland Security. I haven’t seen any abbreviations of this. Is it possible to abbreviate it as MSSSEM, or MSSEM?
I also have a board certification from ASIS in physical security (PSP – Physical Security Professional).
Please advise. Thank you
Dear Ryan,
Congratulations on getting your Masters in this emerging field. I think you can either shorten it to MSSEM or do MScCSEM – the Sc indicates Science, and the lower case letter breaks up that set of esses. The certification PSP should be listed after that. Have you also gotten either of these certifications: Associate Safety and Health Manager(ASHM) or Certified Safety and Health Manager (CSHM)? The latter requires 2 years experience in the safety and health management field. If you have one of those, you can add it after the Masters and PSP. Good luck!
Best, Julie
Very interesting debate – I have, for as long as I can remember, put the apprevation Esq after my name as I was awarded that honorific by the County Surveyors Society way back in 1960 and it was refreshed by them again in 1968 as I had a serious head injury on my way home from the award ceremony which caused me to forget the ceremony and the award and the honorific – I retired in 2010, but have continued to cite it as my primary professional qualification, because, despite being retired I am subject to oath concerning my duties to God, Queen and Country that go on long after I have passed away, to safeguard interests of the gazillions of generations of ‘subjects under the Crown’ that come after me – butg I have discovered that American lawyers also use this honorific even though they werent awarded it by the County Surveyors Society, so I’m thinking of qualifying it by the parenthised capitalised punctuated letters (C.S.S.) – I would greatly appreciate the views of you guys and gals on this idea as I have a lot of dealings with people in America now that I am retired as I coach and counsel people with Autism and Asperger’s Syndrome all around the world, and the majority of my clients live in the USA
Hi David, this is a very interesting comment on the differences between countries and the meaning of honorifics & credentials. Also, what a wonderful calling you have now. I have coached a couple of people with Asperger’s and found it quite rewarding to see them progress into jobs and careers.
Now to the matter at hand: Usage of Esq. as meaning attorney is rarer now, and most US lawyers will put JD (Juris Doctor), LLM (Master of Laws) or LLD (Doctor of Laws) after their name. (These credentials are listed in order of “seniority” meaning JD is a prerequisite for either LLM or LLD in the US.) So while some of your clients may think you are a lawyer, others may not. For those who might be confused, I see two options for you: 1) let them ask you, and 2) add (CSS) after the Esq. Adding this will not really clarify things because no one knows what CSS means. Yet listing it may invite the question as to what CSS means and so you will have the opportunity to explain.
One further suggestion, to save some space, I would eliminate the periods after all initials, including M.C.I.H.T. and say MCIHT. It looks a bit more modern, and will help your name be longer than your credentials.
Thanks so much for this interesting comment and question!
Best, Julie
From what I see in my research on the UK, credentials often are not used after someone’s name, and when they are, the most prominent is QC (for Queen’s Counsel). I’ve also seen LLB (Bachelor of Laws), LLM (Master of Laws), GDL (Graduate Diploma of Law), BL (Barrister at Law), Barr (Barrister), , and Solicitor (often Solicitor of the Senior Courts of England and Wales).
Hi. I’ve just completed a Family Development Credential course through the University of Connecticut. I anticipate receiving the credential (“FDC”) in the very near future. I’m having trouble finding the proper way to list it. Recognition of this credential is growing and I’d like to be sure I’ll be using it correctly. Thanks in advance for any insight!
Hi Laurie,
congratulations on getting such a cool credential. Connecticut is certainly in the vanguard for the Family Development Credential. You are correct in using FDC as the initials you would list after your name. And when you list Education, you will spell out “Family Development Credential” followed by “(FDC)” because reviewers who don’t know what FDC means will seek understanding under your Education section. My guess is that wherever you apply, someone will know what FDC means, yet if they don’t, you’ll be able to explain.
Good luck!
Best, Julie
I think that credentials mean that what you did in your life has an important value to be recognized by people who know the value of what you did. It is the evaluation that makes you feel important.
Hi Joseph,
thanks for your comment! Certainly, if you’ve worked hard to earn a degree or certification, it is very valuable to be able to show that via a credential. And when people see the credential and understand it, they often respect you for both your hard work and expertise. That does feel good!
Best, Julie
I am a Realtor and have a CPA and have also earned my MBA. Question is should I be putting those letters on my business card or leaving them off?
Hi JD,
It depends on whether you think these credentials will be valuable to your work as a Realtor. Remember, a credential is short-hand for the expertise you developed through your studies. So if that expertise is relevant, then by all means include the credentials on your business card. If you focus on residential, I would think the CPA would be very valuable for it shows you understand the numbers involved in a real estate deal. In a market where there are financial services professionals, the MBA would also be valuable, because they recognize what you learned and that you will be strategic on the client’s behalf. If you focus on commercial real estate, I think both credentials would be quite valuable.
Let me know what you decide!
Best, Julie
I received my BS in Biomedical Diagnostics and Therapeutic Sciences (BDTS) last June. But most jobs wanted you to be able to draw a patients blood as well as being able to analysis it. Therefore I became a nationally certified Phelbotomist PBT (ASCP).
My question is how do I list these credentials? Should I add the Bachelors first which would list my name then BS BDTS, PBT (ASCP) or would it be the other way around with my most recent first. Please let me know thanks.
Hi Tara,
the rule of thumb is to list your most recent credential LAST.
Good luck!
Julie
Hello,
I just completed my FMP certification and I want to put it on my resume. I am going to list it under my skills and competencies section. I am not sure how to list it. Should I explain what the letters stand for, or should I leave it vague and hope they ask?
SKILL AND COMPETENCIES:
FMP Certification
or
SKILL AND COMPETENCIES:
Facilities Management Professional, FMP
Thanks
Hi Eric, congratulations on getting your FMP! It’s becoming a more and more vital for Facilities Managers to have this credential, in the US and internationally. In fact, I see many colleges and universities now offer the credential, as well as the International Facilities Management Association (IFMA). I guess that you are going to apply for jobs that are in facilities management? And you must work in facilities management. If so, I think you can put FMP after your name and expect potential employers to understand it. I’d list it under “Skills” as Facilities Management Professional (FMP), and do a new section on your resume that says “Certifications” and put down that you have FMP Certification and where you studied it. Hope that helps! Good luck with your job search. Best, Julie
Very informative article, thank you! There isn’t a lot out there on this subject/issue. I recently earned my master’s degree in communication studies. There doesn’t seem to be a specific acronym for the degree besides just listing the generic MA after your name. Would it be bad form to use MCS or would that cause confusion since that acronym might be more synonymous with a Master of Computer Science? Thank you in advance for your expertise.
Hi David,
First, congratulations on getting your MA! That’s a lot of work and you are right to want to show it off. That said, I think you could say MCS and people would simply ask you what it meant. I don’t think people outside an IT environment would necessarily think of Master of Computer Science. You could do some field testing with some colleagues you trust. Ask them what they would think if they say “MCS” after your name. I agree that the MA is pretty generic. People might ask what is was for, but I think using MCS would generate more inquiry and strike people as a little less pompous than “MA” might.
It is quite a difficult topic as there are more and more Master’s degrees out there!
Good luck,
Julie
Thank you for this article. What is your opinion on MSIT ( masters in information technology), on resume and email signature. I would be looking for a IT director position
Hi Javier, I think an MSIT is an excellent credential to list on your resume, email signature, AND your LinkedIn profile. It’s exactly the kind of credential that an employer would use as either a “must” or “preferred” credential. Good luck! Julie
Jerickson,
I am a registered nurse, I have a Bachelor of Science in Nursing, and a Bachelor of Arts. Should I put all three of those degrees after my name? If so, and assuming my last name is Jessica, would it be written as Jessica, RN, BScN, BA? RN is my most recent credential, and BA was my first.
Thanks!
Hi Jessica,
I always am in awe of people with two BAs – that’s a lot of work! Congratulations on achieving so much. Regarding what to put after your name, my understanding is that you can only get an RN if you have the Bachelor’s degree. So I’d simply put RN after your name. You don’t need to list the Bachelor degrees at all. FYI, if you were to list them all, the oldest degree goes closest to your name and the most recent farthest away.
Good luck, Julie
Actually JErickson, one can obtain an RN with an associate degree, not just Bachelors. I work with many nurses who have different credentials from myself. I’m actually the only nurse in my building with a BSN but the other nurses in the building have associate degrees. We all perform the same duties and we all sign our signatures with RN behind them. I sometimes include BSN on some documents when I want to remind others of my more advanced education…vain I know. But I feel like I’ve worked very hard to earn those credentials and I’m entitled to use them. Also, all nurses who work directly with patients are required to wear white lab jackets at my facility so I have all my jackets embroidered with my name and BSN RN on all of them. I think if having a more advanced degree is relevant to the position then you should be sure to use it. During my job search I’ve come across many RN job listings that read BSN preferred. So I’m revising my resume today to include RN BSN behind my name. Or should I just put RN and list my bachelors under the education section? What do you think?
Hi K, thanks so much for teaching me something I should have known before writing! I like that you have figured out how to show your education off. For a resume, I would go ahead and continue to use the BSN RN (oldest credential comes first) on the heading of your resume, and of course you’ll list your bachelor’s degree under education. This is a perfect example of how you need to get the reviewer’s immediate attention by listing your credentials after your name. Because BSN is preferred, you are automatically getting your resume into a preferred pile by making it easy for people to see that you have this credential. Good luck to you in your job search. Best, Julie
I have read many of your inquiries and responses and wish to pose the following query: I have a JD ( 1984), then became an Accredited Professional Mediator ( APM) then returned to graduate school received my MSW and became an LCSW. I now have opened my own practice as a psychotherapist. and a mediator. I have been advised by some to list my JD degree first, followed by MSW, LCSW and possibly APM.
Although I do not wish to practice law at this time ( and have made my law license inactive in the states where I was admitted to practice) some people have advised me to list the JD as part of my credentials and on my business cards.
So…. do I list myself as JD, MSW, LCSW, APM or possibly MSW, LCSW, APM or possibly MSW, LCSW, JD or finally MSW, LCSW, JD, APM. Thank you for your suggestions ! I have prepared name plates and business cards and email signatures in various formats but want to market myself in the most accurate light ! Thank you. Best, Judy
Hi Judy,
this is a very interesting conundrum! Here’s what I would do in your shoes: list the degrees and certifications I think are most helpful in establishing my credibility in my chosen profession. Since credentials are for establishing credibility, so what’s most important for you to be credible as a psychotherapist and mediator?
My take: Being a JD lends credibility to your mediation practice. Being an LCSW brings credibility to your therapy practice. And the APM is the credential for mediation. Listing them in order of when earned, I’d say JD, LCSW, APM. Once you get more than 3, it looks a little like gobbledy-gook, so I like to keep it as short and sweet as possible.
So why LCSW instead of MSW? Because the LCSW encompasses it. My LCSW clients in NY and NJ tell me that the MSW is presumed if you are an LCSW, that you can be an MSW without being an LCSW but you have to be an MSW to be an LCSW. This site confirms that LCSWs must have an MSW to be eligible for the LCSW: http://www.aswb.org/licensees/about-licensing-and-regulation/.
I hope this is helpful. It sounds like you provide a wonderful set of services, so I wish you continued luck in building your practice.
Best, Julie
Hi there,
Loved the article! Thanks for all the great advice. I just received my MFA and most of my friends think I’m nuts for putting MFA after my name. Some told me that I should put a period after each initial and others said, “Don’t do anything! They’ll see it on your resume.” But honestly, it took me FOREVER to gain those little initials, and it works like a PhD! So, why shouldn’t I be proud to show them? I am!
I’ve been stuck in one line of work and now it’d be nice to get something in my field. I’m hoping having those initials after my name works in my favor in finding the dream job!
Thanks for the nice article!
Thanks, Audry! I’m glad you got what you needed from my post. Congratulations on your MFA, too. I completely support you putting those initials after your name. A credential like that sends the very rapid message to anyone that you are knowledgeable, qualified, a continuous learner, committed to your field. So use it with pride. Best, Julie
I currently have a Master’s in Human Resource Management, and just completed my MBA. What would be the best way to list those (if any); when it is appropriate.
Hi Jodie,
great question. In the US, we typically list degrees in the order we earn or receive them. So if you got you MHRM first, you’ll list your name, MHRM, MBA.
Hope that helps!
Julie
Thanks, this helps me too. I’m not getting an MBA, but I will have my Master’s in Human Resource Management. I def want to use this for my linkedin profile and signature at work.
Hi Kelsey,
Good for you for getting the MHRM. You also can get certified by the Society of Human Resource Management and put Professional in Human Resources (PHR) or Senior Professional in Human Resources (SPHR) after your name. Both are sought-after credentials.
Best of luck in your studies and job search! Julie
I have my Masters in Organizational Change and Leadership (MSL) and just completed my PHR certification. Is it too much to list as MSL, PHR or should I just list my PHR?
Hi Sharon,
I would definitely list both of them, exactly in the order you list in your comment, because they say different things about you. The degree is testament to your knowledge and ability to persevere, and the PHR is a professional credential that says you meet certain standards. So they are both relevant,
Good luck in your search!
Best Julie
Hi Jerickson, I am a RN and I am pursuing my Masters in Health Administration or my MSM. I have seen where this is placed after our RN credentials. Is that correct? Also I do know what the RD stood, however I think that the response to that portion of your article above was a bit exaggerated. We all knew what you meant. Also what other certifications would suggest would be good to go along with a Masters in my area. I have heard that a PMP is good or a RMP
Hi Tammy, my sense is that you would put it after your RN – usually degrees are listed in the order in which you earned them. So if RN was first, it would be listed first followed by a comma and then by your MHA (the accepted abbreviation for Master of Health Administration – one list [http://www.abbreviations.com/acronyms/degrees/37] said MSM means Master of Science in Management, another [http://www.allacronyms.com/tag/academic_degree] said MSM is Master of Sacred Music).
An interesting resource for this topic of degrees is this blog: http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/capitalization/capitalization-of-academic-degrees/
Re getting a PMP or RMP credential, it could be a good credential if that’s the kind of work you intend to do in the future. I know that you have to have already been doing this work in order to get the credential, because there is a requirement that you have done a certain amount of hours in the field to qualify as well as a minimum number of hours of instruction in the area. If you qualify, then it is certainly an advantage to get the credential. Which one depends on where you want to go in your career.
If you want to do more project risk management work, then the RMP makes sense. Otherwise, a basic PMP will suffice. PMP is an increasingly important credential for project managers. Because it’s experience as well as knowledge-based, it gives employers a certain confidence that you know what you’re doing, and recruiters can easily find you via a LinkedIn search that specifies the PMP credential. That said, there are plenty of project managers who don’t have the PMP and still get jobs. From what I read, the RMP is an emerging credential, and isn’t as well-known as the PMP.
Good luck in your career path!
Julie
If pursuing a doctoral degree, is it appropriate to use DHSc (pursuing) or in the mist of a dissertation is it appropriate to identify that after your name? I have seen before and did not know if it is correct use of credential writing.
Thanks
Dina
Hi Dina,
great question! I think it depends how far along you are in the process. I have seen people put after their name DHSc (ABD) meaning “all but dissertation” so people know up front that you are still in process. This, of course, assumes that the places you’re applying will understand that abbreviation.
Good luck! Julie
How would you write a Bachelor of arts honors specialization in Kinesiology? BA Kin (hons)?
Hi Jay, I think I would write “BA Kins” next to your name on top of your resume. Then, in the EDUCATION section, you can include “honors”. It would look like this: XYZ University, town, STate. BA in Kinesiology, with honors. 20xx.” Hope that helps! Julie
You did not cover people who have two bachelor’s degrees and a higher credential which are in related fields. I have a BS in kinesiology, a BS in nutritional sciences, a master’s of education in exercise physiology, and I am an exam away from being a registered dietitian. I WILL put BS, BS, M.Ed., RD, LD, NASM-CPT behind my name to show that I was in school for 9 years, not 5 and have superior education to your standard RD. Most RD’s just complete the accredited program, but I took an entire gammit of harder sciences and premed courses. Writing an article about how other people should list their credentials is a bit pretentious in itself. Who made you the credential police? Not everyone follows a boring path of getting bachelor’s, master’s, and PhD in the same field, so omitting specialized training that sets you apart from others just puts you behind people who took the direct path that is “accepted.”
Congratulations on your achievements! You certainly have a lot of terrific credentials. I wonder how you’re planning to use that knowledge and those degrees. My article is intended to help people market themselves toward what they want to do for work. I definitely don’t think I’m the “credential police.” I simply provide what to me is common sense guidance. If you believe listing all your degrees will help you achieve your goals, fantastic! I hope it works for you, and wish you lots of luck in whatever you do.
GRAMMARGUY: Clearly you misunderstood the intent of this article. I suspect this is due to your rampant insecurity, as evidenced by your compulsive need to prove your “superior education” by listing every degree you’ve ever received. I can assure you, no one is impressed. Good luck with that, though.
To the author: Thank you for the informative article. I Googled this topic while making a new set of business cards, unsure as to which certifications and/or degrees I should list, and found your advice extremely helpful. Don’t let the wounded egos get you down.
Hi SMH,
Thanks for reading and liking my post! I’m glad it was useful to you. And I am always happy to read everyone’s comment, knowing that I sparked a conversation or thought process. 🙂
Best, Julie
I have earned two Master of Arts degrees in two different fields- Communication Studies and Instructional Design Technology. What is the correct way to list these after my name when that is appropriate? I do not relish the idea of being Name, MA, MA; although neither do I love Name, MA(2).
What a wonderful problem to have – how to market such a rich educational background and achievements. While “MA, MA” is funny, you’re so right that it’s not a great way to present yourself.
What about using MCS for Communication Studies and MIDT for the Instructional Design Technology Masters? MIDT in particular is likely to be known in the field you’re in, and it also suggests a specialization. MCS also suggests a specialized focus even if people don’t exactly know what it means.
I take the example of MBA and MPA – both of which are Masters but are very specific – Master of Business Administration and Master of Public Administration. You also have the MPH – Master of Public Health. So there is precedent for using the initials of the degree, instead of MA.
Hope that helps!
Best, Julie
I have always wondered about my credentials. I have switched career paths after every degree. I have my associate of arts in healthcare administration, my bachelor of science in psychology, and now I am going for my masters in marriage and family therapy. What would I list?
Hi Miranda,
thanks for your question! Right now, I wouldn’t list anything. A BS and AA are definitely assets for you, but they are not credentials per se. They are qualifications. Your Masters qualifies as a credential, and when you get it, I would add it after your name. It will say that you did what was required to become even more of an expert and that you are committed to this career.
Hope that helps,
Julie
Hi Julie,
I have read your article, which was great and all of the questions and answers. I have just received my Master of Nursing, but am also a RN, RM (registered midwife) and CHN (community health nurse). As I am a university lecturer in Nursing, I also gained a GCUT (grad cert in University teaching). I listed all of these on my last resume to apply for the job at uni but am unsure what to keep and what to leave out. When I sign health cards as a school nurse, I just put RN after my name. Should these initials only be used on a CV and left out everywher else, eg. email signature?
Hi Leaf,
you are a very accomplished person! What to list after your name on a CV and LinkedIn will come down to the focus of your work and what will serve you best to get you the kind of work you want to do next. I’m going to assume that the Master of Nursing is a credential that you need to make your next move, so I’d definitely include that. If RN is assumed to be incorporated into the Master of Nursing, you don’t need to list it. But from what I know, the RN is a pretty prestigious and distinctive credential that is separate from the Master of Nursing. In that case, I’d list both, with RN first. I wouldn’t include CHN or GCUT unless those credentials will assist you in getting your next gig. And I probably wouldn’t list GCUT at all, because it is ancillary to the nursing work that seems to be your focus. You can highlight other credentials in a cover letter, and include it in your CV under “CERTIFICATIONS.”
I hope that helps!
Best, Julie
I am trying to find good data on which order to place two pertinent designations. I am a practicing Physician Assistant that is also certified since 2003 (PA-C). Additionally I just earned my PhD in Naturopathic medicine with a concentration in Integrative medicine (2013). Should the PA-C or the PhD come first after my name? I have found conflicting information; “The Certification should come last”, “they should be listed in order in which received”.
Thanks,
Lori A. Nikolic, PA-C, PhD
or Lori A. Nikolic, PhD, PA-C
Hi Lori,
first, congratulations on getting your PhD! And in such a wonderful field – a good friend of mine is a naturopath, and it seemed like she learned a lot of complicated and extremely useful information and approaches to healing the body with natural means. So kudos to you.
Now to your question: I am responding as someone who is a marketer as well as a career coach, and as someone who has reviewed thousands and thousands of resumes to hire people. I would lead with the strongest degree – which is your PhD. People will read your name and notice the PhD first. It’s the thing that took the most work (I assume – though I do know that certification as a PA is also challenging to get), and I also presume is the field in which you now are working – so you want to emphasize it.
And here’s a little logic: to my mind, anything listed first is more important than anything listed second. The second qualification is just that – second. Ergo, less important. Not primary.
Hope this helps! Whatever you decide, good luck in your endeavors.
Best, Julie
Thank you so much Julie. I appreciate your kind words as well as your information. I am glad to now there is no hard and fast rule that I could potentially be braking.
~Lori
It may be different for nurses, but the American Nurses Association says degrees first, then licensure, then certifications. The logic is that your degree can never be taken away, the license the next hardest to loose, and people can easily choose not to renew certifications.
Hi Penny,
thanks so much for this information. It certainly makes sense, and by all means people should follow what their profession’s main association says to do.
Best, Julie
Hi, I work in education and have a BA(Hons), a PGCE, I’m a member of the Institute for Learning (MIfL)and I’m working towards an MEd. How pretentious would it be listing these credentials if writing a professional e-mail to someone?
Hi C,
There are 2 answers to that:
First, I think your BA is irrelevant and your PGCE is the most relevant & important credential. PGCE implies you have a BA since it’s only for post-graduates. In your CV/resume, you can list your BA(Hons). You don’t yet have the MEd – once you get that, you can add that to your name, after the PGCE (which I think will always be relevant if you want to keep teaching, since it shows you are trained specifically as a teacher).
Second, you need to list things that are relevant to your industry. So on the face of it, I think listing The Institute for Learning after your name is not necessary and probably won’t be understood by everyone. In your CV, you of course will list your membership. And for email purposes, you could say under your name “Member, Institute for Learning.”
Hope that’s helpful! Thanks for the question. Best, Julie
I am a LCSW (Licensed Clinical Social Worker). Earning an LCSW requires that one first have a MSW. My boss has on his business cards and email signature “John Doe MSW LCSW” Am I right in thinking this is incorrect? Isn’t the MSW assumed, since it is a prerequisite of a LCSW?
Hi Christine, yes, an LCSW implies an MSW in most places – however, there are some places & people who don’t understand the relationship between LCSW and MSW. So your boss is simply covering all bases. This falls into a “how important is it?” area – and obviously it is important to him. Thanks for asking, Julie
Thank you, for this question. It was exactly the one I was going to ask. In our field, it is assumed. They aren’t easy credentials. I understand both sides. I suppose one could use both, but I wonder who would not know, in our field. What I guess I’m getting at is, if I put my name “first last AS, BSSW, MSW, LMSW, LCSW” why would I do that?! To me that’s just goofy. If the degrees earned were in the same realm, just put the highest degree earned. Now…if one has a doctorate…with a DIFFERENT field, it should be added. This brings about this question though: If I have a LMSW or LCSW and a DSW, I would want to use “First, Last, LMSW (or C), DSW??? Right? Someone mentioned alphabet soup?! Lol! I’m asking because I’m still new at this whole initial thing. I *might* have my LMSW soon (fingers crossed). I’m looking at having business cards and something made for my desk. I would only say: first, last, MSW (for now and LMSW for later), right? Everything else is assumed, as stated in this novel…?
Hi Jamie,
great comment. The rule of thumb for all credentials is to list the highest one received in any specific field. So if you get a DSW, you would list that and possibly list LCSW because that indicates you can take insurance (in most states). When you get your LMSW, you’ll list that and nothing else because it is assumed you have an MSW in order to become an LMSW.
Good luck and early congrats on earning the LMSW!
Best, Julie
Everyone who gets a bachelors or masters degree gets it in SOMETHING but in the words of another article I just read when researching this topic — to put BS or BA or MBA or MS after your name does NOT designate what you do, and is pretentious. Yes, pretentious. I love it. It’s the word I’ve been searching for everytime I see someone with those after their name whether at the top of a resume or on Linkedin. The only ones I sometimes cut any slack for are nurses who may feel it important to use BS to show they have a 4-yr vs. a 2-yr degree. I use APR after my name, which stands for Accredited (in) Public Relations because it’s a hard-earned designation from my professional association, the Public Relations Association of America. Does everyone know what it means? Of course not, but the rest of my Linkedin profile or my resume– or I — will tell them. I welcome seeing RD or PE or another professionial designation indicating licensure or advanced accreditation, etc., after someone’s name, but phlueeeze spare me the “BS” of putting BS, BA, MBA, MS or whatever after your name. Loved this article.
Thanks for your comment, and I’m glad you liked the article! I do think there are times it’s appropriate to say you have an MBA or a BFA – when that credential is required for the positions you seek. It’s a quick way to say you are qualified, and isn’t that the reason for using any of the credentialing letters after your name?
Actually I have a BA. Not in anything. Just a general BA so it is possible. And I have a hard time listing my “credentials” after my name.
The reason I did not end up “specializing” my degree is because I chose to drop psychology in my third year as my University only allowed people in Psychology to graduate with an Honors degree and I had chosen to go do a Post-Graduate Public Relations Certificate instead. This program only required a general degree, so I did not waste another 2 years of University when I didn’t need it. So, I finished school with a BA and a Post-Graduate Certificate in Public Relations. Now, how would you list that?
Hi Annon, This is an interesting question. Post-graduate certificates are listed as PGCert, PgCert, PG Cert, PGC, or PgC. I would put one of those after your name and add -PR to it. So it would look like this: PGCert-PR, PgCert-PR, PG Cert-PR, PGC-PR, or PgC-PR. As I’ve said before, it is not usual to put a BA after one’s name. The very name “post-graduate certificate” implies that you graduated from college with some kind of bachelor’s degree. Hope this is helpful. Best, Julie
What would you suggest for the larger, clumsier-sounding degrees? I’m obtaining a Master of Science in Logistics & Supply Chain Management. So would it be MSLSCM? Thats what the school suggests, but it seems cumbersome. As you said, the idea is to convey your education quickly, at a glance. Yet an acronym such as this might puzzle people.
Your thoughts?
Gabe, thanks for this question. I recognize that it is a longer acronym and may appear unwieldy. However, I’m going to defer to your school – they are the experts in your field. I will also guess that the people who are hiring someone with an MSLSCM will know what it means, and will be looking for it. Remember, a credential is meant to be shorthand for expressing your expertise and knowledge base. So use whatever acronym is relevant to your field no matter how unwieldy it may seem to you. Good luck! Julie
I am organizing a permanent display of employee/faculty donors to a capital campaign for an academic medical center. Physicians usually stick with just MD or MD, PhD – maybe DO. However, some of our other professionals, especially nursing faculty, can make our display look like alphabet soup with all the various licensures and credentials they use in other contexts. (Some take up 2 lines!) Do you have any advice on how I might set forth some guidlines that limit individuals to 2 degrees/credentials of a certain quality … without giving them the impression that I am minimizing their expertise?
Hi Laurie, it’s quite common for people to be so proud of all they’ve earned that they want to list all their credentials – and you’re right, it does look like alphabet soup!
I suggest asking people to list their top one or two most relevant credentials, meaning those one or two credentials that qualify them as professionals in their area and give them credibility as an expert. The reason can be to be able to fit as much information as possible while maintaining readability.
Here’s an example. A Registered Nurse would definitely say s/he was an RN. If s/he were also a Registered Dietitian, the RD is a very relevant credential. I have one client who has an MS and an MCHES (Masters Certified Health Education Specialist), both of which are vital to her being taken seriously in the public health education arena. If and when she got a Masters of Public Health, she’d leave off the MS and use MPH instead – because that is more focused for her field and gives her greater credibility.
I hope that helps! Good luck with the conference and let me know how it goes. Julie
A very helpful article but I would say use your title, wherever you can!! I worked EXTREMELY hard for my batchelors and subsequent PhD and I’ll be damned if I’ll hide them away! Similarly, if someone has been given an honourary title (which is pretty rare, by the way!) then they too have deserved such a thing due to their committment to that field!
I think its a fairly typical (tsk!) attitude that recruiters are put off by titles from another discipline- people change careers all the time and unfortunately recruitment processes can really hinder such a choice.
I agree with you, Martin, that people who get a Bachelor, PhD or other degree definitely deserve to be proud of their efforts. The point of the article is to point out realities of the hiring arena, and you highlight an important one. It’s true that a degree from another discipline may be seen as irrelevant by recruiters. There may be a perception that you are either too indoctrinated or committed to that field, or that you are too expensive. So the job of your resume is to market you for what you want. It doesn’t take away from your accomplishments to put them in a context where they will be understood as assets. So if you have a PhD in one field and are aiming to move into another, I might not put the PhD up at the top with your name. It will still show up in your resume, and you have a chance to mention it in your cover letter – which is the place you explain why you are seeking work in another field and how your education and experience prepares you for that new field. As you say, people do change careers all the time, and they do that by showing how their past experience is relevant to the new career, and helping the potential employer see an advanced degree from a different field as an asset rather than a hindrance. Hopefully, when you seek to change careers, you’ve given it a lot of thought and had a taste of the new field. So tell employers about that, rather than dwelling solely on your past accomplishment. Hope this makes sense!
If I don’t get a job because of my PhD then that speaks ill of the recruiters, not me. I sacrificed years of my life for that bit of paper and I’d rather die in the street like a dog then denigrate myself by removing my accomplishment from my CV. To hell with these statements about the “realities” of the labour market. I’m sick of people stating outright, or even implying, that my PhD is a problem.
Hi James,
I completely agree that you earned your PhD and should be proud of it! Getting a PhD means you work hard, stick to things, finish what you’ve started, and have enormous discipline – all things that would be attractive to most employers. If you’re applying for a job that doesn’t require a PhD and you are wondering if you might be thought “overqualified,” write a cover letter explaining why you want the job, the value you’ll bring to an employer, and how your background matches what they need. Hopefully, this will allow you to stand out.
Good luck!
Julie
How should a person sign their name if he (or she) earned a doctorate of management degree in organizational leadership?
David Collins, DM (will people know what this means)
Dr. David Collins
Great question! The accepted forms are D.M. or D.Mgt. – I’d use the D.Mgt. because it’s more explanatory. Since this is a fairly new doctorate, many people don’t know what it means and might think D.M is Doctor of Medicine or just be confused. D.Mgt. more immediately conveys “management.” Good luck!
Do you put a comma after the name, before listing credentials?
I always do put a comma after the name. Sometimes I make the credential initials a little smaller font size than the name.
I am very curious what your opinion is on the use of two professional credentials you didn’t mention here. Those are PE for Professional Engineer, and AIA for licensed Architect. Associated with those are student and intern credentials and a whole lot of certificates people like to list after them too, like LEED – AP. Where do you think those should go? Are they just appropriate for email signatures?
Great question! I’d list any credential that is essential to your credibility in the field or profession in which you work. I worked with architects and we put AIA after their names, and with an engineer, we put PE. The point is to provide relevant information quickly and directly. If you need the credential as a basic qualification for a position, list it.
Is it acceptable for someone who has an “honorary MD” to put “MD” after his name? They guy does have a PhD from the USA, and was awarded honorary MD from Hungary (the guy himself is American). Now he writes his name as “John Doe, PhD, MD (hon).” I think it is rather presumptuous to put MD after one’s name if one did not actually attend medical school, pass and also pass all the boards. What is legal and acceptable in this case? Thank you.
Hi Christine,
I obviously can’t speak to the specific situation you mention. Generally speaking, people get honorary degrees as recognition for achievement/accomplishment/impact. An institution of higher learning confers them to acknowledge that this person has demonstrated mastery of a subject, and has made significant contributions to the world or a field or industry through their lives and work. they’ve earned that recognition through those contributions. So whenever someone is recognized in that way, they have – in the estimation of that academic institution – earned the right to use the honorific title as they see fit. They earned it as if they went to school – because they did, in a way – the “school of life” if you will. It’s been conferred – given – to the person, so it’s up to the person to use it as they want to.
Hope that helps.
Julie
Julie
As someone in medical school, where can I get one of these MD’s without all this work that I’m putting in? Haha. Sign me up for a trip to Hungary.
Hi Liz,
luckily you know that earning any professional degree requires a lot of work – whether in the US or Europe or anywhere in the world. Good luck to you!
Best, Julie
Hi
I have several licensure and credientials which I do include in my resume, sometimes I think its an overkill if it isn’t, what would be the best order to put them in after my name. These are my credientials
RMA-Registered Medical Assisant
CHI- Certified Healthcare Instructor
EMT-B -Emergency Medical Technician-B
Thanks
Hi Will, You’re right that having so many credentials after your name looks a little crowded. And it’s important that people know you have so many qualifications. I suggest putting next to your name the credential most relevant to the work you want to do, to highlight that you’ve done the work to get certified/registered/credentialed. Then you can put the other certifications in 2 places on your resume if you want: in your CORE CAPABILITIES or SKILLS section, and/or in a section called CERTIFICATIONS that would come after EDUCATION. I suggest putting it in 2 places because in the CORE CAPABILITIES section, the credentials will be picked up by ATS systems (some of which only scan part of a resume), and in the CERTIFICATIONS section, you will put the school or authorizing entity from which you got the certification and the year, if that’s relevant. Hope that helps! Best, Julie
Hi Julie,
For PowerPoint presentations for work (in a larger company with over 4000 employees), would the presenter need to put the degrees after the name in the title page such as:
First Name Last Name, BSMT, BSN, MBA?
Thank you!!!
Hi Cara,
you certainly could list all of those degrees if they are relevant to the work you are doing – keep reading for the caveat, though. I take it the BSMT is Bachelors of Science in Medical Technology? and BSN is a Bachelors in Nursing? If you’re in a pharma or medical company, then those degrees are definitely relevant. As I’ve said before, however, it is unusual to list Bachelors degrees. My preference would be to put the MBA only. The presumption is you have a Bachelors degree when you list a Masters degree. My other suggestion is to look at what other people in the company do – there often is a standard format for listing credentials. If others list their Bachelors degrees, then list yours. Otherwise, default to only listing your MBA.
Good luck, Julie
I agree , I never put all my credentials behind my name because in healthcare they can add up!
I am an R.D. and an RN, I have a MA.Ed, and a MHSA along with a CFNP and I am CCHP and CHES
I just choose RN-CFNP, MHSA because of my job
I mean I earned each one, with exams or degrees but it really gets crowded
Hi HG, you are so smart to choose the credentials most appropriate for your position. It’s the smart thing to do when seeking work – use the credentials that position you best for the position you seek. On LinkedIn, you can list all your credentials and education. And since more and more employers are using LinkedIn as a place to gather more information about candidates, it’s a great place to tell your complete story. Thanks for the comment, Julie
So, if someone is an ordained minister and just purchased the credentialling for an honorary title, and they use Dr. Their Name, D.M.T, D.D. and says they are a Doctor and a Doctor of Divinity and a Doctor of Metaphisic Theology, is this legal?? Can they actually advertise and have a website and counsel people on a PROFESSIONAL level?? I know someone who has done this and it inferiates me to know end, because I am in the health care industry as well and to think people are being lied to and munipulated by scammers like this one… Yet what can someone do to take action??
Hi Serena, sounds like you’ve been burnt! And your message is good for others – to check out a professional before you work with them. Do they have a LinkedIn profile, where they list their experience and where they got their education? Is it a legitimate place? Perhaps too the person does provide a good service and wanted a credential to give them credibility. The point is to check someone out. Most of the people I do business with are referred by friends and happy customers, so I know the quality of their work.
I work in healthcare and would not have known what RD stood for…
I thought it was a well thought out and written article. Thank you!
thanks, Kay!
dummie me; I thought RD meant Recently Divorced… Joking can we all laugh?? !!!
LOL! Thanks for the lightness, Renee.
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As a registered dietitian I do not appreciate you comment that individuals outside of food service do not know what the credential “RD” stands for. You must be the one living under a rock for the last 10 years! Registered dietitians are critical in the clinical setting working from intensive care units to community health programs. Food service is one minor part of the profession. Dietitians go to school for 4 years followed by a 1-2 year internship that only 50% of applicants receive a spot in. This profession is competitive and will become increasingly important as preventative health becomes a standard in the US. You are not only rude but entirely un-educated if you think that the credential RD is unimportant.
Kara,
I’m sorry you took offense at my comments, and you’re right that I didn’t include preventive health as an important field in which RDs work.
I think you misunderstand me if you think I don’t value RDs. Of course I value RDs having worked with many of them over the years. It’s simply that people outside food service and preventive health don’t usually know what RD stands for. By all means, list any credentials after your name that you earned. Perhaps it will help educate others.
Hopefully, people will read your comment for what it’s worth – as a piece of education about what the RD means – and ignore your upset. I know I do.
More broadly, I’ll say that there are many people who think everyone SHOULD understand their credentials and the meaning of industry terms (also known as jargon). That’s not the way the world works. Such assumptions are a surefire way of being eliminated from the candidate pool.
WTF!…If you think that anyone outside the field thinks your degree is important(as is obvious by your self important attitude) you are sadly mistaken…the author was simply pointing out how the average American reacts to your field of accreditation…. I have a P.H.Eng and I couldn’t care less about your suffix…You are less important to me than a PhD. in Poly Sci! If you are a PhD and don’t have 3+ specializations you are less than a 2nd year Philosophy major, you are simply worthless to anyone who isn’t trying to make you feel better for a 3149167th place trophy….
Hi S.Jester, You make an interesting point about comparison between degrees or qualifications. My own belief is that a degree indicates that you have gotten some kind of mastery over a topic. And I also believe that people get mastery through experience, apprenticeship, volunteer work, training programs, trial-and-error, etc. I love that my plumber knows how to install a new hot water heater. He may have studied something about plumbing, but he got most of the knowledge from learning from someone who knew how to do it and then actually doing the work. A PhD would be useless as a plumber, unless s/he had learned from a plumber or plumbing course. So different degrees and qualifications matter in different contexts. Thanks for your comment! Julie
Most people do not know what an RD is. In fact, I’m in a college library study room right now full of MBA candidates, and when I asked the room (about 30 people) if they knew what an RD was, the resounding answer was no. This page was meant for advice, plain and simple. Getting all burnt up over something this small isn’t indicative of an individual who wants to be employed anywhere I know of.
Hi Chris, I appreciate you asking your MBA class about whether they knew what an RD is – and now they hopefully do! The key takeaway for me is that people tend to know their own field very well and be much less familiar with other fields, occupations, professions, and degrees. So someone who is an MBA and is looking for work in business can assume that most people reading their resume will know basically what an MBA means. The same for someone with an RD applying to dietitian jobs. It’s when we step outside our world that it’s important to realize that not everyone knows what we know. That’s what makes the world so fun – lots to learn! Thanks for your comment. Julie
Christopher, I know this article was written a while ago, but I stumbled across it today while seeking advice on what to put after my name. Anyways, I appreciate your response. While reading the comments, I too had no idea what RD stood for… Which I don’t believe is unusual or offensive; it’s simply indicative of the fact that A) unless you’re in Healthcare or have been seen by a dietician, not many people would connect the dots for what this mean. B) The importance of registered dieticians has recently begun to gain serious notoriety. Meaning, it’s a ‘newer’ discipline and finally has achieved a recognizable spot in Healthcare. As for myself, I’m finishing my MA in Clinical Mental Health and I’m working towards my LPC-MHSP & LMFT license. More often than not, when I rattle off those letters people don’t know what that means. At times I get frustrated, but then I take a step back and realize my frustration stems from a certain seed of narcissism that we all (especially those with adavanced degrees) feel the need to feed. The whole, “I’ve worked hard to get these letters and people SHOULD know what this means and that I’m important.” Bottom line, we are only important to those in which we help and serve… (end rant)
As someone in the medical field I completely respect the value of the RD credential. My understanding of what the author meant was simply that RD as an abbreviation on a resume would not serve a purpose if you were to apply to say a job with a photography company in the sense that many people would have no idea what “RD” stands for. Personally I didn’t know about a good half of the credentials that were mentioned in the article.
Hi Maggie,
thanks so much for the comment. I had to do a lot of research to figure out what a lot of the credentials mean, and there are new ones all the time. The point of the article is to use the credentials most relevant to the field in which you seek work. People in that field WILL know what the credential means, as you say.
Best, Julie
I wouldn’t want an RD after my name as the field is so full of itself. Look at the state of the nations health and diet. RD field discriminates against those who can’t afford to work for free for 1-2 yrs to complete an internship somewhere in the country where the few are available. RD lobbying also keeps any other people who do not tow their worldview of Big Agriculture and Big Pharma from having the ability to say anything about nutrition. The field is a joke bought and paid for by big corporations that funds all their so-called studies.
Hi Stephanie, I’m sorry to hear you’ve been having a difficult time finding work in the dietitian field. The reason I know about the field is that I hired an RD at the food rescue program I led. So my experience is a little different than yours, in that I found there were opportunities for dietitians in the non-profit field working in anti-hunger, nutrition education, and family services agencies. I hope you find something that’s less corporate and more fulfilling! Best, Julie
Great post~
The field isnt a joke, DO YOU KNOW that you have an awesome chance of being accepted into medical school with this degree? ….you DO KNOW that food is our original medicine right? but i agree with you that the hazing one must go through to get that credential is messed up and that stupid lobbying. a bachelors should be enough. besides, theres more opportunities other the the medical field..y’all wanna know somethin messed up? one of the reasons hospitals require an RD credential is for insurance reimbursement….
Hi Jess, As I re-read the comments in this section, I saw how many people respect the RD field. I also know that many fields (including coaching) are being “professionalized” by people in the field who want to make sure that practitioners meet certain basic standards. And insurance companies can then rely on the credential as a shorthand for the practitioner having a basic competency and body of knowledge. The basic requirements do get upgraded over time as we learn more about a field. As you say, food is our “original medicine” and the more we learn about it, the more information an RD needs to have in order to be effective. I see it happen in many fields. Thanks for your comment! Best, Julie
Kara,
You went too far in your comments in relation to the author’s reference to RD. I think it was just an example. To me I know RD as research and development. Abbreviations could be subject to many interpretations.
Go easy-Hakuna Matata
Hi Mo, such a great reminder that acronyms mean so many different things! You’re right that RD can be research and development, as well as Registered Dietitian. It depends on the field, which is why it’s important to know what credentials are important in your world. Thanks, Julie
I agree, I am a RN with a MHSA and a MA.Ed and my bachelor is in nutrition. I chose to go the nursing route for my career but I definitely know who our RD’s are. I know, I have a BS in Dietetics with an RD to know exactly how difficult the learning is and any healthcare professional knows what RD stands for, my God.
Hi HG, people in healthcare and food service do know what an RD is. That’s a great thing! It’s helpful for people not in the field to have the opportunity to ask about it, by listing the credential when it’s appropriate. Best, Julie